Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Green Week (2nd nomination)

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The result was Delete. Rjd0060 (talk) 19:17, 26 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Green Week

Fails WP:GNG particularly objective third party evidence, contains far too much original research. Michellecrisp (talk) 11:14, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. -- Canley (talk) 15:26, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Notability appears to be limited solely to the Monash University campus. Ecoleetage (talk) 03:42, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I really can't see the point to deleting it. The notability is wider than just the campus, many people have heard of Green Week before. There have been articles in the Herald Sun about it (using it to highlight the dangers of Binge Drinking, etc) and other lesser known media attention. I think it is well known enough to warrent inclusion into wikipedia. Disco (talk) 04:33, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment many people have heard of Green Week before sounds like a weasel statement! If it is well known then there should be ample reliable and verifiable sources establishing its notability. In its current form it lacks this significantly. Michellecrisp (talk) 04:56, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Total weasel statement. But anyway, since I haven't archieved news articles written about it, I can't back it up. The Herald Sun is the largest paper in our state, and they had an "opinion" page decidated to Green Week once, but I've spent 5 minutes googling and I can't find anything. And that is just print media - there is footage of an ABC weather report in the late 80's/early 90's where it was delivered without the weather charts becuase "some students from farm week have stolen them". Again, totally unverifiable! Disco (talk) 01:05, 23 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete This may be notable for folk at Monash Uni's Clayton campus, but beyond those walls the event is no more notable than similar events at presumably every university around the country. As for coverage in substantial sources, Google News archives reveal a couple of passing references only. However, I note that there are reasonable articles for similar events at Uni of WA, Adelaide Uni. I would contend that in these examples however that there is more substance and historical background as opposed to long descriptions of non-notable competitions and non-notable winners. I'd think that any worthwhile content could be contained within the Monash University, Clayton campus entry. An example of this is for Prosh Week at Melbourne Uni. Murtoa (talk) 06:28, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I would agree that in the Prosh articles there is more worthwhile content, and more attention needs to be made to Green Week. But is that a reason to delete or just a criticism of the article in its current form? I guess when you look at the popularity of the event, on the campus (around 8,000 I believe), I just can't see the need to delete it when people are willing to keep it maintained. But, as you can probably tell, I have no knowledge on what constitutes notibility, but I still want to keep it because I really can't see the harm in it. I have a feeling I am outvoted here though... :) Disco (talk) 01:05, 23 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately WP:NOHARM is not a valid reason for keeping an article. Michellecrisp (talk) 02:15, 23 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Once again my lack of knowledge has been shown. Okay, so as the previous link to Google News archives shows, and at least another mention shows, Green Week has been covered by reliable, verifiable and noteable sources. The actual information used needs to be linked to a Monash page, but Green Week has been mentioned by 3 news sources so I believe it passes the noteworthy status - which is what was in question? Disco (talk) 03:05, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

These references, whose mention of Green Week is very much in passing (one is a music review, another an article about drinking), certainly establish that it exists, but don't establish the subject's notability. Ultimately I think it appropriate to mention briefly in the Clayton campus article, but I can't see how you'd find sufficient notable content to warrant its own article. Murtoa (talk) 03:46, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Campus-based activity, not notable beyond its clientele. WWGB (talk) 01:20, 23 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. user:Disco said there are articles in The Herald Sun newspaper about it. Where are they? I searched the Herald Sun and can't find Green Week. You have to prove notability, which as yet has not been done.--Lester 04:32, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I admitted that I could not find them, I doubt they are still archived as it was years ago. But there are links to The Age which mentions them. Disco (talk) 04:53, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, no significant coverage by reliable sources to indicate notability beyond a particular campus.--Boffob (talk) 06:24, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, the coverage provided seems to be trivial at best (seriously, Urban Dictionary?). A few students having a few too many drinks and getting up to mischief does not notability make. Lankiveil ^{(speak to me)} 11:34, 25 July 2008 (UTC).[reply]

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